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Justin Welby told the BBC that he would forgive a chain painter in the heart of a scandal that caused his resignation as a key priest.
in his first interview after Release in November last yearWelbe said his pardon with John Smith, the most capable pain that was related to the England church – “unclegable” and more important to help the victims “but their lives.
Smith, who died in 2018, has attacked more than 100 boys and young people in the UK and Africa over decades.
a Damning 2024 Review Welby “can and had to be” made more discoveries to bring Smith to justice, which the former main priest said he felt a “deep feeling of personal failure.
Speaking to the BBC on Sunday with Laura Quinsberg, Welbe said “aby failure” on Smith and:
- He said he was “deeply shameful” in a speech he delivered shortly after his resignation.
- He expressed frustration that he could not get the board of directors of the church to recognize the protection or equal equality for women and gay spouses.
- He said it would be a “bad deal” for the church to be divided between England and other areas of the English Commune.
- He warns Britain that it will become more diverse to create a “unified” community.
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Since the 1970s, Smith has been a prominent figure in a church-related movement, and has used his position to consecutively beaten boys and young people who prey in Christian camps and schools.
Smith, who later lived in Zimbabwe and South Africa, continued to insult after leaving Britain. But before his death in Britain and abroad, he never faced justice, the 77-year-old.
the 2024 Makin Report He said his “bad evil” was “in the industrial level” and concluded that opportunities to investigate Smith on misuse of misuse—including them when evidence was presented to Welby in
Asked by the BBC, whether he would forgive Smith, Welbe said, “Yes.
“He has raped the victims and survivors. So I’m forgiven or not, to a large extent, without a relationship.

Welby said the victims were more important to “seeking them… to be released to rebuild their lives” by the church rather than talking about forgiveness.
With pressure on how the victims react, Welby said he would never suggest that they should be forgiven.
“Everyone wants to be forgiven but apologize is an insult again,” Welby said.
While forgiveness from Welbey’s belief, Smith’s amnesty may sit in trouble with some survivors, who have accused him of not contacting them.
One of Smith’s victims, known as Graham, who filed a 2013 complaint, told the BBC that Welby would not forgive.
“I said earlier that if he called us in 2017, he said, ‘I would come and apologize to you personally, sorry, I was upset’, I would have forgiven him immediately – but he never did that.
Asked if he could never forgive Welby, Graham said: “Not if it continues to empty us and refuses to tell us the truth.
‘He’s deeply ashamed’
Welby first met Smith in the late 1970s in a Christian camp but has always insisted that he was unaware of any insulting charges against Smith until
McCain’s report states that it is “most probably”, even if the full image is still vague.
“You can believe it or not, I didn’t have a sign,” Welbe said.
“Under any circumstances you are you to participate because you are polluting our investigations,” Welby said.
“I had to be honest and I see that now,” he said.
Previously in the interview, Welby told the BBC that he was “completely suppressed” because of the scale of insults in the church..
“I didn’t do the job on the security forces… We meant the shepherds of the sheep, that’s one of the expressions used by Jesus… and I failed because of that,” he said.
It took several days to resign after the report was published at the time. He accepted “personal and institutional responsibility..
Asked about his preliminary decision, Welby said “a drawing” when the report’s discoveries appeared earlier than expected, and “had not really thought about it,” before deciding to resign from respect for the victims.
“I made that decision for myself. I didn’t look at the papers much, so it wasn’t.
Welby sparked further controversy in December accused of light in the church misuse crisis During a speech by the Lords Council, the victims said they had left him “bad” and “annoyed.
“It’s one of the moments when I’m thinking about it. I was just wrinkled. It was completely wrong and completely unjustified,” he said.
Where in the future to the church?
Last month, General Assembly – Church Executive Board – He rejected a proposal that should have been completely independent.Supporters say it increases accountability, but critics say it will delay reform.
Welby told the BBC that “completely in the interest” is independent, but he could not convince the synod to receive. “Isn’t the CEO of the England church PLC – you can’t make this change by saying ‘This is happening now’,” he said.
Welby also expressed his disgust with the rejection of Sinod to give more equality to gay couples and female clerics.
“I wanted to move a magical knife and get it properly… But it’s not a reality and I didn’t have my voices,” he told the BBC.
Asked whether cultural divisions in a global church of 85 million people could lead to divorce, Welby said: “I can see that it will happen.

According to the 2021 census in England and Wales, less than half of the population described themselves as Christians for the first time, while the population of Muslims and Hindus has increased, although Welby said the church “greened in recent years.
Welby said the creation of “social unity” is going to be the “biggest challenge” of the country.
“Are you in interests or against, or neutral, we are certainly now at two or three above, perhaps the most diverse nation on earth… that has happened in half a century and the challenge is who we are,” he said.
“People want a unified society. They want a society that we know who we are, what we are telling us and where we are going – and this is where the church plays its role.
“It will be a reminder for Smith’s survivors of hurting their horror and the effects of his whole life,” a spokesman for the England church said.
They repeated the church’s apology to the victims and said that anyone who came forward was “hearted and commercially heard of the protection of the professions.
“Over the past 10 years, the church has developed and strengthened the policies and practices of protection, has made significant progress in training, national protection standards and external audit, and continues to do so,” the statement said.
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